Category: Apologetics

  • Saved – or not?

    Saved – or not?

    Intro

    I’m hitting on a long debated question with no end in sight. That question being “Can a person lose their salvation?” It’s also known as the “Once saved always saved” question. And I’m going to be up front with you. I don’t think anyone can actually know for sure the answer to this question. In the end, I believe only God knows the whole truth. But that’s okay. So long as we trust in Him and seek Him, we can become sure of our own personal salvation. And God doesn’t call us to ensure the salvation of others, He calls us to bring the gospel to others and let Him work the salvation in them. We are not the judges of another’s salvation, God is.

    With all that, the structure for this post will be to put forth the question in greater detail and then present both sides of the debate. I will be as objective as possible and will wait until the end to present my personal opinion. But I will again be up front and say that I could be wrong. I am not so prideful that I believe I have all the right answers – though that has been a struggle of mine, see my post about that very topic. Now that I’ve got all the fun disclaimers out of the way, let’s get started.

    The Question

    First I’m going to elaborate on the question “Can a person lose their salvation?”. It often starts out something like this. A person has an encounter with God and answers a call to salvation. They pray and are now thought to be saved. However, in time they abandon their faith and walk a road diametrically opposed to God and His Word. By the fruit they are producing people who never knew their story would not assume they are a Christian at all. And as far as the Christians who do know them, they wonder if this person will spend eternity in Heaven or Hell. This is a tricky situation to navigate – especially when talking to any loved ones of such a person.

    Now the question becomes, was this person truly saved at that moment they prayed? And if so, are they still saved and going to Heaven despite their lifestyle and wanting nothing to do with God? Or did they lose their salvation and are now on their way to Hell for eternity?

    Now that I’ve set the stage, I’m going to present the arguments of both sides with their strengths and their weaknesses. The opposing doctrines are called Eternal Security (once saved always saved) and Conditional Security (can lose salvation). When referring to people who hold to these viewpoints, I’m going to use the terms Eternalists and Conditionalists – just for simplicity’s sake. Okay, here we go.

    Eternal Security

    To expand a bit on the doctrine of Eternal Security, it claims that once a person receives salvation through faith in Jesus, they are eternally secure and destined for Heaven. I’m going to go over the key points and related Scripture passages in an objective manner. Everything I write here that’s not Scripture will be paraphrases and summaries of the arguments I found in my research.

    All Scripture is from the NIV.

    Biblical Foundation

    My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.

    John 10:27-29

    To the Eternalist, once a person has been saved, they cannot lose that salvation because no one can overcome the Father to remove them from His hand.

    For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Romans 8:38-39

    Bolstering the argument made for previous verse, Paul emphasizes that nothing can separate us from the love of God.

    And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

    Ephesians 1:13-14

    A couple arguments I found about this passage. Only an authorized person can break a seal. So if God places Holy Spirit as a seal, then God alone is the one who can break it, not us. In addition, a deposit in this passage is like the earnest money when buying a house. It’s a guarantee that I will purchase the house at full price. For the believer the guarantee is for the rewards they will receive.

    Being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

    Philippians 1:6

    God is the one who initiates and finishes our salvation. This gives believers confidence that He will do what He said He will do.

    To him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy

    Jude 24

    It is up to Jesus, not us, to present us before God. Believers are eternally secure because of His ability to keep us, not in our ability to maintain our own salvation.

    Arguments and Explanations

    In this section, I’ll lay out some arguments and explanations from Eternalists as to what they believe.

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    This position points to the promises found in Scripture and testifies that those who are genuinely in Christ have a secure standing before God. This view rests on passages declaring the irrevocable nature of God’s gift of salvation, the sealing work of the Holy Spirit, and the believer’s eternal position in Christ.

    Salvation stands on God’s sovereign initiative, rooted in grace. By grace, believers are forgiven and granted life in Christ (Ephesians 2:8-9). This gift is not earned; it is received through faith. Because God is the origin of that work, the outcome ultimately rests in His hands rather than on shifting human merit or performance.

    However, humans must respond in faith. True faith produces transformation over time, yet the anchor of one’s security remains in the finished work of Christ on the cross (Romans 5:1-2). Through ongoing trust that aligns with obedience, believers experience assurance-not because they never stumble, but because Christ’s atoning sacrifice is sufficient to cover sin’s penalty.

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    “Does the Bible support eternal security?” BibleHub.com
    https://biblehub.com/q/does_the_bible_support_eternal_security.htm Accessed March 22, 2026

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    Ephesians 4:30 tells us that believers are “sealed for the day of redemption.” If believers did not have eternal security, the sealing could not truly be unto the day of redemption, but only to the day of sinning, apostasy, or disbelief. John 3:15-16 tells us that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will “have eternal life.” If a person were to be promised eternal life, but then have it taken away, it was never “eternal” to begin with. If eternal security is not true, the promises of eternal life in the Bible would be in error.

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    “Eternal security – is it biblical?” GotQuestions.org
    https://www.gotquestions.org/eternal-security.html Accessed March 22, 2026

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    Salvation depends upon God to bring it to pass, not us. Nothing, not even our sin, can frustrate the eternal and sovereign purpose of God who determined to save us by grace through faith in His Son. Since God’s holiness has been satisfied by the death of Christ, He can be just and the justifier of those who receive His Son by faith.

    Sin does not change our relationship to God as His children though it does affect our fellowship, the intimacy of our walk with God, our ability to serve Him, and the rewards we will receive in the future kingdom.

    Regeneration refers to the impartation of spiritual and eternal life which makes us new creatures in Christ. This can never change. First, it is based on the work of the Son, not our works. And second, as physical birth makes one a child of his parents forever, so spiritual birth does the same.

    This argument is simply this. The New Testament plainly states we are saved by grace through faith in the person and work of Christ, and that salvation is not of human works or works of righteousness which we have done. If, however, having put our trust in the person and work of Christ, we can lose our salvation by what we do or do not do, then in the final analysis, we are saved by works.

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    “Assurance of Eternal Security” Bible.org
    https://bible.org/seriespage/14-assurance-eternal-security Accessed March 22, 2026

    Conditional Security

    To expand a bit on the doctrine of Conditional Security, it claims that a person who receives salvation through faith in Jesus, can lose it through unbelief and rebellion against God. I’m going to go over the key points and related Scripture passages in an objective manner. Everything I write here that’s not Scripture will be paraphrases and summaries of the arguments I found in my research.

    All Scripture is from the NIV.

    Biblical Foundation

    There are several passages warning against falling away from the faith.

    See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called “Today,” so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness.

    Hebrews 3:12-13

     My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

    James 5:19-20

    Extra argument I found about the James 5 passage, bringing a person back into the fold saves them from death. This is not a physical death, but a death of the spirit/soul implying that a soul made alive by salvation can experience death.

    There are other passages that indicate that salvation remains only by continuing to persevere in faith and obedience (take note of the conditional “if” statements in these passages).

    Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation— if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.

    Colossians 1:21-23

    But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And we are his house, if indeed we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope in which we glory.

    Hebrews 3:6

    We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end.

    Hebrews 3:14

    Other passages contain exhortations to examine oneself to ensure your own salvation.

    Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?

    2 Corinthians 13:5

    Therefore, my brothers and sisters, make every effort to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never stumble

    2 Peter 1:10

    Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.

    1 Timothy 4:16

    The Conditionalist points out that such warnings, conditional statements, and exhortations make no sense if it were not possible to fall away and lose salvation.

    Arguments and Explanations

    In this section, I’ll lay out some arguments and explanations from Conditionalists as to what they believe.

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    Perhaps more mis-understood and mis-represented than Calvinism is the theological belief and the Biblical teaching that a Believer is Secure in Christ based on a condition.  What is the condition?  Is it get saved, sin, then lose your salvation everyday?  Certainly not!  This truly would be a miserable condition wouldn’t it?  Some claim that the focus turns from Christ to yourself in examining every last detail of your performance thus making you fall into the trap of some sort of works salvation.  Does this sound like the ‘good news’ to you?  Not me!  I should go ahead and tell you that I too am a Conditional Security Believer and I affirm that I am saved by grace through faith alone.  I have become a recipient of God’s grace through my faith in the work of Christ alone and I remain in God’s grace through this same faith alone.  It is Christ plus nothing.

    Arminians believe that “It is abundantly evident from the Scriptures that the believer is secure.” Furthermore, believers have assurance in knowing there is no external power or circumstance that can separate them from the love of God they enjoy in union with Christ. Nevertheless, Arminians see numerous warnings in Scripture directed to genuine believers about the possibility of falling away in unbelief and thereby becoming severed from their saving union with God through Christ. Arminians hold that if a believer becomes an unbeliever (commits apostasy), they necessarily cease to partake of the promises of salvation and eternal life made to believers who continue in faith and remain united to Christ. Therefore, Arminians recognize the importance of warning believers about the danger of apostasy and exhorting them to persevere in faith as a means of building them up in their faith and encouraging them to mature spiritually, which is a sure and biblical way to avoid apostasy.

    Marshall concludes: “The New Testament contains too many warnings about the danger of sin and apostasy for us to be complacent about these possibilities…. These dangers are real and not ‘hypothetical.’” Methodist scholar Ben Witherington would add: “The New Testament suggests that one is not eternally secure until one is securely in eternity. Short of that, there is the possibility of apostasy or rebellion against God by one who has believed in Christ. Apostasy, however, is not to be confused with the notion of accidentally or unconsciously “falling away.” Apostasy is a conscious, wilful rebellion against God . . . . Unless one commits such an act of apostasy or rebellion, one need not worry about one’s salvation, for God has a firm grip on the believer.”

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    “Conditional Security of the Believer” Drews2CentsForYou
    https://drews2centsforyou.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/conditional-security-of-the-believer/ Accessed March 22, 2026

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    Additionally, believers can “fall away from the faith:”

    But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons. (1 Tim 4:1)

    One cannot fall away from something without first having it, just as one cannot leave a place to which they have never been. Only Christians can fall away from faith. This departure from faith (that Hebrews 6 and other passages warn us against) must be man’s choice since God has promised not to change His mind. God will never stop believing. Only we can do so.

    Faith is like a bucket placed under a faucet that freely pours out the living water of grace. The bucket does not conjure up the water; it simply receives. Still, if the bucket departs from its position that benefits from the water’s flow, it will no longer receive. Those who depart from the faith forfeit the salvation that is only received by faith.

    The conclusion of this is that if one in good standing rebels, stubbornly persisting in a disobedient lifestyle, they are no longer part of the faith and no longer Christians. They have “fallen away from the faith” (1 Timothy 4:1). They have departed from Christianity. Please note that this involves much more than occasional falling. Falling away is a much more grievous thing than occasional falling. It is a stubborn, hardened, rebellion against God.

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    “Is Eternal Security Conditional or Unconditional?” Apologetics Index
    https://www.apologeticsindex.org/3046-conditional-security Accessed March 22, 2026

    Criticisms

    Now in this section I bring up a couple popular criticisms of both positions and responses to those criticisms.

    Eternal Security

    1. Some people feel that Eternal Security gives people a license to sin.
      • Response from aforementioned reference to BibleHub article.
      • “Scripture counters that those who truly love Christ demonstrate obedience (John 14:15). Moreover, the Holy Spirit convicts of sin (John 16:8). A believer who deliberately and unrepentantly pursues sin calls into question whether they experienced genuine conversion (1 John 2:19).”
    2. Why else would there be warnings against apostasy if it were not possible to lose salvation?
      • Response from GotQuestions.org https://www.gotquestions.org/apostasy-salvation.html
      • “The passages warning against apostasy serve two primary purposes. First, they exhort everyone to be sure of their salvation. One’s eternal destiny is not a trifling matter…The second purpose for the Bible’s warnings against apostasy is to equip the church to identify apostates. They can be known by their rejection of Christ, acceptance of heresy, and carnal nature (2 Peter 2:1–3).”

    Conditional Security

    1. Risk of works-based salvation
      • In my research, Conditionalists time and again acknowledge that we cannot perform works to achieve salvation and the only reason we can lose salvation is by abandoning faith – they surmise that one needs faith to receive salvation, so by abandoning faith it logically follows that you can lose that salvation.
    2. Undermines assurance
      • I referenced this one earlier.
      • “Arminians believe that “It is abundantly evident from the Scriptures that the believer is secure.” Furthermore, believers have assurance in knowing there is no external power or circumstance that can separate them from the love of God they enjoy in union with Christ.” Drews2Cents

    Additional Information

    There is so much out there I can’t squeeze into this. I’m going to summarize some more stuff I found.

    1. Both believe God orchestrated salvation and that the believer receives it by faith through grace alone.
    2. Conditionalists define those who commit apostasy as those who received in faith and then turned their backs on God and rejected their faith – thus losing their salvation.
    3. Eternalists define those who commit apostasy as those who merely pretended to be believers. They talked the talk, but never received salvation by faith. So when they fall away from the faith, they are merely showing their true colors.
    4. Both acknowledge backsliding as different than apostasy in that it’s occasional sinning and not permanent rejection.
    5. Conditionalists do not believe that occasional backsliding causes one to lose salvation, only rebellion and rejecting their faith (this answers another common criticism of Conditional Security – Which sin will end salvation?).
    6. The people who cry “Lord, Lord, did we not…” are people who never had relationship or faith as indicated by Jesus’ response “I never knew you.” So this cannot be used to support Conditional Security.
    7. Conditionalists say that people receive salvation by faith and through faith they continue to walk with God. So when a person rejects that faith and rejects that relationship with God, how can they still be saved?
    8. Eternalists believe God holds our salvation and perseverance of faith no matter our choices. Conditionalists believe that God holds our salvation no matter our choices, unless our choice is to stop letting God into our lives and reject Him and His salvation.
    9. Both sides claim to have eternal assurance of salvation. For the Conditionalist, willful rejection negates that assurance.
    10. Eternalists focus on God’s ability to hold us. Conditionalists focus on that and our ability to choose/reject God.

    My Opinion

    I promised at the beginning I would give my opinion – with the caveat that I could be wrong. In the end, I lean a bit more towards Conditional Security.

    On the one hand, the idea of Eternal Security sounds really nice. Not having to fear losing salvation or your place in Heaven – no matter what. And the arguments that those who fall away never received salvation through faith to begin with makes sense (see 1 John 1:19 for a passage that supports this position).

    However, the arguments that this can lead to people being morally lax is valid. By the same token, though, the arguments that Conditional Security can lead to a works-based salvation is also valid.

    And Conditional Security answers the question of why so many passages exist regarding the perseverance of faith and warnings against falling away.

    And God shows us time and again that He will not override our free will. He gave us choice and He gave us the ability to choose to have faith. So if we choose to have faith (“without faith it is impossible to please God” Hebrews 11:6) and receive salvation, He comes right into that relationship. But what should happen if we choose to abandon that faith? Will God say, “Sorry you’re stuck with me for eternity”? That doesn’t mesh with my understanding of Scripture.

    My Conclusion

    In conclusion, I lean toward Conditional Security. But regardless of which is true, I know I received my salvation by faith through the grace of God by the work of Jesus on the cross and did nothing to earn it. I am personally secure in Christ and choose to follow Him every day, seeking to draw closer in my relationship with Him. And no external power has the ability to separate me from God.

    I also acknowledge that the church houses people who have a profession of faith and yet no heart change. And many of these people probably believe they are saved when they are not.

    Final Statements

    Both sides agree with the statements I just made in my conclusion. In fact, these two viewpoints agree on more than they disagree. The ultimate question surrounds apostasy and whether that exclusively belongs to people who profess faith without true heart change, or if truly saved people can reject their faith and lose their salvation. And in either case, only God knows their hearts. It’s not my place to say if a person lost their salvation or were never saved to begin with. In either case, God calls me to bring that person back into the fold if possible.

    The other major difference surrounds responsibility. Both sides acknowledge that God holds us securely in His hand when we come to salvation. For the Eternalist, that’s it. Now God holds us for all of eternity and nothing changes that – because if we commit apostasy than that shows we never received salvation in the first place. However, the Conditionalist claims we have a responsibility to continue to have faith and allow God to hold us. By rejecting His hold, we reject the eternal security He offers us. To be sure, if this happens God will pursue us relentlessly – perhaps more than He did before we received salvation. And praise God He pursues us – even those of us still in the faith. He never stops that pursuit.

    Wrapping Up

    Hoo boy. This has been quite the ride. Admittedly I hadn’t known a whole lot beyond the surface-level arguments of either side until I started working on this blog. And I highly encourage you to read the articles I posted. Be forewarned, some are a bit dense. And please remember, do not try and judge another person’s salvation. Only God can do that. Pray for other’s whose salvation you may be uncertain of. If given the opportunity, lovingly correct and point people to Jesus. Even those who commit apostasy can be brought back into the faith – James 5:19-20 makes that clear.

    As I said at the beginning, ultimately only God knows the whole truth about this topic. I don’t think it’s black and white enough to come down hard on one side or the other. And the most godly position any of us can take on anything that isn’t clearly laid out in Scripture is being humble enough to admit we might be wrong on whichever side we agree with. Though if you genuinely don’t know which to believe, that’s okay too. Admit that. Honesty is the best policy. Until next time, God Bless.

    Outro

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  • Answers Are Not Necessary

    Answers Are Not Necessary

    Intro

    I’ve got kind of an interesting topic today. Especially given the nature of this blog. For those who don’t know (and as a refresher for those who maybe knew) my tagline for this blog is “Simplifying the Truth”. And on my front page I have “If you’ve ever struggled with understanding the truths found in the Bible you’ve come to the right place.” right in the center of it. In hindsight, this almost sounds arrogant. It almost sounds like I think I have all the answers. I hope no one has gotten that impression of me. It certainly wasn’t my intent when I wrote it. The truth is that I know I don’t have all the answers and I’m okay with that.

    Which leads me to my topic for today. It’s okay to not have all the answers. Why am I writing about this? Because so many Christians fear getting asked a question regarding the Bible, God, or their faith by an unbeliever and not having the answer.

    The Fear

    When it comes to evangelism – sharing your faith with others – there are three major fears I believe that everyone encounters (I know I have/still do). The first is fear of rejection. Let’s face it, no one likes sharing something that they are passionate about only to have the other person go “meh”. The second is fear of judgment and being labelled a “Fanatic” or “Jesus Freak” or mocked and ridiculed in some other way. The third – and the one I aim to address here – is the fear of not having answers for all the questions they might get.

    Ironically, for those of us with substantial knowledge, this is almost worse. Historically, I felt embarrassed when I didn’t have the answer to a Biblical or Theological question. Why? Because everyone around me knew that I had a lot of knowledge and could answer so many questions. Especially in highschool it was always “Got a question, ask Cory. If he doesn’t know, no one does.” At least, that was the perception I had. I don’t think anyone actually thought that, but that’s how I felt. And I was afraid of not having all the answers.

    There was one gal in particular who didn’t know a lot, but wanted to learn more. She asked me questions all the time – usually over Facebook messages. Even after I graduated and started college, she reached out and asked more questions. I was more than happy to oblige. I enjoyed explaining the Word of God to her and others. But I still feared not having the answers. I hated admitting when I didn’t and I hated admitting that I Googled questions to find out the answers.

    The Solution

    So what’s the solution? In a word, God. Okay, but what’s the practical side of it? Practically speaking, it looks like learning to be secure in your identity in Christ. And trusting that with Holy Spirit living inside you, you can overcome any fear and doubt and, when you need them, He will give you the words to speak. Key phrase: when you need them. As my pastor has said when he preached on John 10:10 (paraphrased), “Abundance is not a warehouse that I can go get what I need when I need it. But that when I need it, I’ll have it.” In this case, it’s an “in the moment” speaking of Holy Spirit. Not a massive file cabinet in our head of knowledge that we can rely on.

    But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

    John 14:6 (NIV)

    Over the years, I have learned (by the grace of God) to be more comfortable with saying, “I don’t know”. Learn to use this phrase in your vocabulary. The people who are genuinely curious and searching for truth will greatly appreciate it and will have no problems with you saying, “Let me find out for you”. If you’re mocked or ridiculed for not knowing, then that person really isn’t interested and you should say a prayer for them and not waste any more time with them.

    Honesty is truly the best policy here. People greatly appreciate it and will respect you more for it.

    My Key Verse

    But what about my key verse? If you’re not sure what that is or you just need a reminder, here it is.

    But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect

    1 Peter 3:15 (NIV)

    This verse sure makes it sound like we need to always have the answers. But that’s not true. The verse says to be prepared to give an answer specifically for the “reason for the hope that you have”. In other words, if someone asks you “how could you have hope even in the midst of chaos?” I think with that question, we don’t need a whole lot of Biblical knowledge to answer. And we should be prepared to answer that type of question. The world searches for hope. Every person in some form craves hope. And we have it. So we need to be ready to share it.

    Remember this: the gospel is simple enough for a child to understand. We don’t need to be theologians to win people to Christ. And we don’t need to dump a load of theological textbooks on people in order to be effective witnesses to them. We just need the simple gospel.

    With Tilling and Planting, I seek to give a bit more knowledge with every post to give you more confidence in your faith so that you’ll become more comfortable with sharing your faith. And God help me, I need to become more comfortable sharing it as well.

    Wrapping Up

    Hey! What’s this? I’m at the end already? Yes you are. This is a shorter post and that’s okay. There aren’t a lot of answers to discuss about this topic. Learning to be okay with not having all the answers isn’t all that complicated. It all comes down to your relationship with God and your security in your identity in Christ. I’m not saying that it’s necessarily that easy, but it is simple. Keep your focus on Him and eventually you’ll find that you really don’t care what other people think about you. This is something I’ve been learning for years. And I’m not there yet, but like Paul, I’m pressing on.

    In case you missed my email (or you aren’t a subscriber yet), this is the first post on the new schedule – 2nd and 4th Saturdays of every month. In addition, I’d like to remind you that I want to answer your questions and concerns you have about the Bible and your Faith. So, please, feel free to leave a comment or fill out the contact form on this site with any questions or topics you’d like to see me cover.

    Outro

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    Feel free to leave a comment with any questions about what I’ve written, any additional comments about the post, or if there’s a topic you’d like me to write about. Before doing that though, be sure to check out all my posts here and see if I’ve covered it already. And if you find I’ve done it already but aren’t satisfied or still have more questions, let me know!

    Thank you for reading this! I greatly appreciate each one of you. Until next time, God bless you all!

  • Baptismal Regeneration Logical Problems

    Baptismal Regeneration Logical Problems

    Intro

    Here in my final post regarding Baptism and Baptismal Regeneration, I give you some parting thoughts about the subject. Some logical problems that I challenge you to think about and then decide for yourself if Baptismal Regeneration can truly be compatible with what the Bible says about God and Salvation. (To catch up on any posts you missed, click here.)

    Incapable of Baptism

    Let’s think for a moment about people who physically cannot get baptized. Take for example an elderly woman dying of cancer in the hospital. She’s been running from God for so many years. Her children, on the other hand, love Jesus and have prayed for her all these years to be saved. And here, on her deathbed, she chooses Jesus. So, she prays, repents, and accepts the free gift offered to her by God. The joy and peace she receives in her final hours lift her spirits and those of her children. However, because of her physical state, her doctor won’t allow her to be moved for baptism. Now let’s say that her children don’t consider baptism necessary anyway so they don’t press the matter or do anything else to replace immersion in water. She dies a few days later. Does she go to Heaven, or Hell?

    How to Handle

    How do believers in Baptismal Regeneration handle such a situation? By sprinkling them with water. And that suffices. Let me repeat that: They sprinkle water on them and that suffices. Sprinkling water on people equals dunking them under water? Writing that sentence makes the logical parts of me squirm and groan. But then again, centuries ago people decided that dunking infants under water wasn’t safe, so they started sprinkling them with water to cleanse them of their sinful nature that they’re born with. Unsurprisingly that carried over to that working for anyone. Though they still prefer immersion – wonder why if all you need to do is get your hand wet and flick them with some water. In fact, let’s make it fun. Let’s just get water guns and squirt all the people for Baptism Sunday! 😄

    But in all seriousness, how can dunking people under water equal sprinkling them? Especially since the New Testament says nothing about sprinkling of water when discussing baptism. Nothing, zilch, nada. And just ignore modern dictionary definitions of “baptism” – which include sprinkling – because the root Greek word means “immersion”. I do acknowledge that many Jewish cleansing rituals include the sprinkling of water, but none of those things carried over to New Testament believers. So, why does it exist without Biblical precedent? Exactly for situations like the one I mentioned earlier. Believers in Baptismal Regeneration need sprinkling of water in order for their doctrine to still work for everyone. Did you catch that? They need, need sprinkling for baptism. What does that sound like? Adding to salvation. Adding to what Christ accomplished on the cross.

    Read my earlier posts on baptism for a more in-depth analysis on how this doctrine makes salvation works-based.

    Heaven or Hell

    How would believers in Baptismal Regeneration answer that question about where the elderly woman went? Based on my personal interactions with them, they would answer that question with “Hell”. To their credit, they’d be remorseful about it, but honest. However, this again goes to show how Baptismal Regeneration inherently makes salvation works-based. And how it claims that Jesus’ sacrifice wasn’t enough on its own. We need to do something to complete it.

    In conclusion to the first of the logical problems of Baptismal Regeneration, if a person desires baptism but can’t for one reason or another and want water sprinkled on them, I don’t have a problem with it. So long as they understand that it adds nothing to their salvation. I personally don’t care and I don’t believe God does either. After all, God looks at the heart (see 1 Samuel 16:7). And if their heart is for Him and fully trusting in Jesus for salvation, then sprinkle them with water. I’ll support it.

    The Gap Problem

    The next of the logical problems for Baptismal Regeneration I call “The Gap Problem”. What is this? Well, Baptismal Regeneration teaches that a person receives the remission of their sins (i.e. born again) during baptism. The “gap” comes from a period of time when a person might have a measure of faith but is forced to wait until they can arrive at a site with a water source to be baptized in order to be saved (if they believe that’s true).

    The Gap Example

    For example, John meets Dave for lunch out and says, “I’ve been reading the Bible you gave me, and I want to be saved.” Dave replies, “That’s fantastic! Let’s go down to the river. While I’m baptizing you, we can pray for the remission of your sins since this is how salvation works.” John says, “Okay.” Though in his heart he questions the necessity of baptism since what he has read in the Bible makes it sound like all he really needs to do is believe. John agrees that the Bible places importance on baptism, but he didn’t think it equated it with salvation. But then again, Dave’s the expert, not him. On their way to the river, a car runs a red light, hits Dave’s car, and kills John instantly.

    Dave’s belief in Baptismal Regeneration led to him restricting the timing and location of John’s salvation to the river. This led to a gap in time in which John had some measure of belief – but hadn’t made the full commitment – and when he was going to be saved. This gap time allowed for Satan to take his life before he made the actual commitment to follow Christ. Thus, John has died in his sins and will spend eternity separated from God.

    I believe this to be a major problem with Baptismal Regeneration. You run this type of risk all the time. Churches who preach this had better be prepared to baptize people spontaneously any day they are open to the public. If they don’t, I cry foul. That defines hypocrisy. Claiming you need baptism for salvation and then not being able to provide it in church when people give their lives to God at a random Wednesday service, or a Tuesday night Bible study.

    The Flip Example

    On the flip side, take that previous example and assume that Dave does not believe in Baptismal Regeneration. John meets Dave for lunch and says, “I’ve been reading that Bible you gave me, and I want to be saved.” Dave replies, “That’s fantastic! Let’s pray for the remission of your sins right now.” They pray and John puts his faith in Christ. Afterwards, Dave says, “You know, Jesus commands all believers to be water baptized as a way of publicly identifying yourself with Christ, so let’s go down to the river and baptize you.” John agrees – the Bible certainly emphasizes it. On their way to the river, a car runs a red light, hits Dave’s car, and kills John instantly. In this scenario, John already put his faith in Christ and received the remission of his sins. Therefore, he will spend eternity with God instead of apart.

    Do you see the difference? And the problem? I mentioned that churches that preach this should always be ready to baptize people. But so should every single person who believes in it. And this leads into the next of the four logical problems I find with Baptismal Regeneration.

    Who’s in Control?

    The prior problem also highlights another problem. Did you pick it up? Here it is spelled out: People that embrace this doctrine effectively control when and where a person is saved. Does that scare you? It should. The Catholic Church used this amongst other things to control the masses for centuries. The Catholic Church claimed you had to be a part of the church and do XYZ to be saved. XYZ included various sacraments such as baptism, taking communion, going to confessions, and more. And the church controlled when and where these sacraments took place. Catholic priests forgave people’s sins. The church claimed it could kick people out of Heaven via excommunication from the church.

    Granted, Protestants who embrace Baptismal Regeneration oppose what the Catholic Church did and say that they don’t claim such power or authority over people’s salvation. And to a certain extent that’s true. They don’t require ALL the sacraments, and they don’t require continual need to perform all these rituals. Plus, they don’t emphasize a specific denomination nor confession to priests or pastors, etc. You get it. They don’t require nearly as much as the Catholic Church used to.

    The Truth

    However, to tell a person “To receive salvation, you must confess and repent of your sins at the same time of your baptism” means the same thing as “That’s great that you want to be saved right now, but you only get saved when repenting of your sins while someone baptizes you”. Which puts that person’s salvation off to a future moment, i.e. telling them a time of salvation. That gives the saved person control over when a person receives salvation, regardless of whether they recognize it.

    In addition to the when, they control the where. This is a little more obvious since there is a limited number of locations where you can baptize a person. If you aren’t already in a church building with a baptismal, or a house with a bathtub, or next to a lake, river, or other body of water, then the saved person has to take the seeking person to another location, i.e. controlling where a person is saved. I give people who believe in Baptismal Regeneration the benefit of the doubt. I think that most people who embrace this are ignorant of the fact that by their words and actions, they are controlling when and where that person’s salvation occurs and opening the door for Satan to steal, kill, and destroy that person before they get to that location at that time. (Which goes back to the Gap Problem from earlier.)

    In Summation

    To summarize, by believing this doctrine a person ignorantly takes some measure of control over another person’s salvation. Jesus commands us to proclaim the message of salvation. But that doesn’t give us the right to dictate when or where people can receive salvation. Unfortunately, across denominations there exists a mindset of only being saved at church events. (Unintentional, but that’s how society sees it.) God help us all overcome that mindset and show people it doesn’t matter. However, when people add Baptismal Regeneration to the message, it complicates matters. Because now instead of an altar call in a land-locked park of “Come forward and surrender your life to the Lord,” it becomes “If you want to surrender your life to the Lord, come to this address at this time and there you can receive salvation at the time of your baptism.” Can you see the difference?

    This approach turns some people off since they may wonder why they can’t do it in a park with no water. It creates greater confusion and more questions. Which could manifest more from the children. And we claim that all you need is child-like faith (see Matthew 18:3). After all, the Bible claims children can grasp and understand salvation. Granted, believers in Baptismal Regeneration probably will never do outreaches somewhere they can’t immediately baptize people. However, this type of approach creates more limitations on salvation. And that creates more control – even though ignorant and unintentional they may be.

    What Kind of Salvation Plan?

    The fourth, and final, of the Baptismal Regeneration logical problems has to do with what kind of salvation plan the God of the Bible would create. Yes, I believe that looking at the nature of God and who He is will tell us all we need to know about what His plan of salvation would look like.

    God’s Desires

    First, God is a God of love. And not just any kind of love. Unconditional love that desires only the very best for those He loves. Second, God desires everyone to come to salvation (1 Timothy 2:1-4, 2 Corinthians 5:18-20). If God desires the very best for us and desires everyone to come to salvation, wouldn’t it be logical for God to make the plan of salvation as simple as possible and with as few limitations as possible? Yes, He would! Therein lies the problem with Baptismal Regeneration.

    The Problem

    As I discussed earlier, Baptismal Regeneration places limits on the where and when salvation can occur. A second person must be present, and they must be at a location where water can be used to baptize (sorry soldier on the battlefield). Those are some hefty and unnecessary limitations for God to require. After all, large parts of the world don’t have nearby water sources. (Looking at you Sahara Desert!) And large parts of the world don’t have modern conveniences that would allow for quick access to water. God is God and can create any plan He wants and make any requirement He wants. But if God truly wants the best, and truly desires all to become saved, then the extra requirements make no sense and contradicts God’s desires.

    The Plan

    Lastly, God intended for the new covenant to be 100% handled by Him since mankind messes up anything requiring them to do things to get God’s forgiveness. Just think about all the requirements of the old covenant and how many additional things the religious leaders of Jesus’ day added on. Or even the amount of stuff the Catholic Church added on. How is Baptismal Regeneration any different from those? When the Bible talks about the new covenant, it always points to what God planned and what Jesus fulfilled. It’s all about God doing all the work for all time so we wouldn’t have to do anything except receive it by faith – which has always been His requirement (Genesis 15:6, Romans 4, Hebrews 11, Ephesians 2:8-9).

    Wrapping Up

    Given all that I’ve written now about the subject, I hope you see clearly the truth that Baptism is not necessary to be saved. These logical problems that I’ve shared about Baptismal Regeneration in this final post are not the only ones out there. And truly my thoughts in this post and my previous ones are incomplete in their analysis of the subject. I’d encourage you to read more about it.

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  • Baptismal Regeneration Verses

    Baptismal Regeneration Verses

    Intro

    I teased in my last post that I would be talking about the verses that some people say support Baptismal Regeneration. (If you haven’t read my post on baptism or my first one on Baptismal Regeneration, catch up here.) Digging into the interpretation of these verses is key to demonstrating the validity of this doctrine. After all, if the Bible truly teaches it, then everything I said in my last post is moot and must have other explanations. On the other hand, something similar can be said about these verses if the Bible does not teach Baptismal Regeneration.

    The Verses

    Believers in Baptismal Regeneration cite 7 primary Scripture verses to support their claims. I’m honestly not sure if there’s anymore. But these are the ones that the doctrine stands or falls on: Mark 16:16, 1 Peter 3:21, Acts 22:16, Galatians 3:27, Acts 2:38, John 3:5 and Romans 6:3-5. I plan to go through each of the verses in turn and briefly show how it doesn’t support Baptismal Regeneration. Let’s start.

    Mark 16:16

    I first need to address one thing about this passage before moving on to the analysis. Some scholars question the validity of Mark 16:9-20. They say that a scribe might have added them later on and that Mark didn’t write them. So, there is risk in basing a key piece of doctrine on anything from these verses. Now assuming that it is original to Mark, does it actually teach Baptismal Regeneration? Let’s break it down.

    Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. (NIV)

    In this verse, I see two distinct statements.

    1. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved.
    2. Whoever does not believe will be condemned.

    The first statement tells us something important about those who believe and are baptized – they will be saved. The second statement tells us that anyone who does not believe will be condemned. However, I see nothing in this verse that states what happens to a person when they are baptized but may or may not believe. In order to properly teach the necessity of baptism for salvation, we need a third statement. Something like “He who believes and is not baptized will be condemned” or “He who is not baptized will be condemned”. Of course, neither appears in the verse. Already this brings out the skeptic in me.

    Negative Inference Fallacy

    When using Mark 16:16 in support of Baptismal Regeneration, you make a mistake known as the Negative Inference Fallacy. To put it plainly, “If a statement is true, we cannot assume that all opposites of that statement are also true.” A simple example of this would be, “a cat with black fur is an animal” – a true statement. But the negative “a cat without black fur is not animal” is false. The fallacy would claim that second statement is true. Similarly, the statement “he who believes and is baptized will be saved” is true. (Jesus explicitly says that). However, to assume the statement “he who believes but is not baptized will not be saved” is true, is unwarranted.

    Belief Vs Unbelief

    The last thing to pull from Mark 16:16 is that Jesus gives us a specific condition that appears in both the positive and negative outcomes: belief. Jesus shows us here that without belief you condemn yourself. Doesn’t matter your baptismal status. If Jesus requires anything of us, He states it here as belief. So, we know for certain that to be saved, we need faith. We need to believe in Jesus and His finished work on the cross. Because Jesus worded the condemnation portion this way, this passage actually denies the necessity of baptism for salvation. Kinda ironic when you think about it. That one of the passages commonly cited for Baptismal Regeneration actually denies it. That happens sometimes with certain false doctrines. Determined to find evidence for it, people often overlook or miss things staring at them in the face.

    1 Peter 3:21

    and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ (NIV)

    At first glance, it certainly looks like Peter says that baptism is necessary for salvation. However, this contradicts other passages demonstrating people’s salvation prior to baptism. One of the most well-known examples is Cornelius and his household in Acts 10. And as the one preaching, Peter would know about this! When Peter saw the evidence of their salvation through the baptism of the Holy Spirit, he saw no reason to prevent water baptism from taking place. After all, they received the same gift that the Jewish believers had. So, what is Peter saying then?

    Peter connects baptism with salvation but specifies by the statement “not the removal of dirt from the body” that the act of baptism doesn’t save. Rather, he’s saying that baptism represents the thing that does save you – the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. (The ESV says, “appeal to God for a clean conscience”.) Appealing to God saves us and baptism represents that salvation.

    Some of the confusion here comes from the fact that baptism oftentimes gets relegated to a later date – rather than happening right away. In Peter’s Day, baptism happened almost immediately after confessing Christ as Lord. In today’s church, the equivalent to immediate baptism would be “making a decision for Christ” or “praying a sinner’s prayer”. To us claiming salvation and not praying a sinner’s prayer just doesn’t compute. Same with baptism back in the first century church. They certainly emphasized it more than we do today. Perhaps to our detriment. After all Jesus commanded baptism.

    Acts 22:16

    And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name. (NIV)

    Here Ananias tells Paul to get baptized and wash his sins away. Slam dunk? Baptism saved Paul. Not exactly. The question to ask and answer is “When was Paul saved”? According to Paul in Galatians 1:11-12, Jesus Himself preached the gospel to Paul, not Ananias. And when Paul recounts the road to Damascus story in Acts 26:12-18, he makes no mention of Ananias at all. These passages strongly suggest that Paul’s salvation came on the road to Damascus. That after Jesus spoke to him, Paul believed in Him. In addition, Paul received the baptism of Holy Spirit at the same time he received his eyesight back – all before Ananias water baptized him. And the Bible makes it clear that Holy Spirit only comes upon those who believe. So how could Paul receive Holy Spirit unless he was already saved?

    The Grammer

    The Greek grammatical structure of Acts 22:16 also lends itself to a different interpretation than the face value one. The Greek participle epikalesamenos, translated as “calling on his name”, refers to an action simultaneous with or preceding the main verb. In this context, the participle can easily be translated as “having called on his name”. This fits with the idea of Paul’s salvation occurring on the road to Damascus – before his baptism (the main verb referenced earlier). This alternative translation better describes the order of events based on Paul’s descriptions of his salvation experience.

    And as a final comment about this verse, the idea of baptism washing away sins found in this verse is once again symbolism. After all, we see that Paul’s salvation occurred before baptism and thus the baptism was purely symbolic. Paul’s spiritual cleansing already took place. Like Peter and Cornelius, Ananias might as well baptize Paul since he already received the gift of Holy Spirit.

    Galatians 3:27

    for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. (NIV)

    To make this verse teach Baptismal Regeneration feels like a stretch to me. And not only that, but it also takes it out of context of the whole of the book of Galatians. The central argument found in Galatians rebukes a mixing of God’s grace and works of the law for salvation (Galatians 1:6-10). So, for Paul to write an additional requirement for salvation other than faith in Jesus makes no sense. Galatians 2:16 declares that justification comes from faith in Jesus Christ and not by works of the law. In fact, the first 3 chapters of Galatians emphasizes justification by faith over works. And verse 26 of chapter 3 declares our sonship comes by faith in Jesus.

    Which Baptism?

    An interesting note about Galatians 3:27. It may not even be referring to water baptism at all! We know of at least two types of baptism. Water baptism and Spirit baptism. Which one fits the context better here? Well, take a look at these other two Scriptures and see for yourself what makes more sense.

    You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. Romans 8:9 (NIV)

    Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 1 Corinthians 12:12-13 (NIV)

    Do these passages make it clearer? Galatians refers to a baptism into Jesus. Romans makes it clear that the Spirit of God sets us apart from the unbeliever. And 1 Corinthians makes it clear that the baptism of the Spirit brings us into the body of Christ. So, more likely than not, Galatians 3:27 refers to baptism of the Spirit, not of water.

    Acts 2:38

    Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” (NIV)

    One of the strongest verses to support Baptismal Regeneration, Acts 2:38 looks daunting to address. After all it connects repentance, baptism, and forgiveness all in one fell swoop. However, let me show you something interesting about the Greek grammar here. It opened up my eyes to what it really says.

    Translation Please

    The Greek word eis (translated as “for” in this verse) lies at the heart of this discussion. Well, that and what definition to ascribe to “for”. After all, “for” means different things in different contexts. Here’s just a few: “in order to get”, “because of”, “with regard to”. And any one of these fits in Acts here. Consequently, we need additional research to identify what meaning makes the most sense. Luckily, other people already did this for me. So, I’ll sum it up here.

    The New Testament contains eis 1774 times and translates in different ways across the board. And since eis means different things in different contexts (just like “for”), it makes it more complicated to determine what the correct translation is. However, noted Greek scholars A.T. Robertson and J.R. Mantey maintain that in Acts 2:38, it should be translated “because of” or “in view of” rather than “in order to get” or “for the purpose of”. The reason comes from the fact that elsewhere that eis and baptism are used together it clearly translates as “because of” or “in regard to”. Some examples. (I put the word translated from eis in bold.)

    “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.” Matthew 3:11 (NIV)

    Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? Romans 6:3 (NIV)

    They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 1 Corinthians 10:2 (NIV)

    Now try to read these verses with “in order to get” replacing the bold words. They make no sense, right? In these verses, “because of”, “with regard to”, or even “as a result of” makes more sense. (I explain more about the phrase “baptized into” later in my discussion about Romans 6:3.) Therefore, interpreting eis as “because of” in Acts 2:38 in order to maintain consistency with other passages makes the most sense.

    Second or Third Person

    Moving on from Greek prepositions, the change in pronouns here in Acts 2:38 gives strong clues as to the meaning of the sentence. The Greek words translated “repent” and “your” here are both second person plural. Meanwhile, the phrase translated as “be baptized ” is third person singular.

    Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”

    We get a quick change from second person plural to third person singular and back again to second person plural. Fascinating. The switch connects the command “repent” to the phrase “forgiveness of your sins” directly. And taking into account the change in person and plurality, you essentially get a new sentence. “You all repent for the forgiveness of all of your sins, and let each one of you be baptized”. Or think of the baptism phrase as parenthetical to Peter’s main message. “Repent (and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ) for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”

    However you look at it, the grammatical structure and the word choice used (in conjunction with other uses of that same word) lends itself to an interpretation of Acts 2:38 that denies Baptismal Regeneration.

    John 3:5

    Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. (NIV)

    We now get to one of the favorite verses for believers in Baptismal Regeneration. Favorite because it comes out of Jesus’ mouth and contains the phrase “born of water”. Doesn’t say “baptism”, but “born of water”. Which to them means the same thing. Or rather, “born of water” equals “born again”. Therefore, you need baptism for salvation. By now, though, I hope you recognize the decreasing support Baptismal Regeneration has from the Bible. Therefore, that can’t be what Jesus says here in John 3. If you’re thinking that, great! Let me show you what Jesus actually means by “born of water”.

    Don’t Say the Word

    First of all, Nicodemus knew and understood the concept of baptism. As I mentioned in my last post, converting from one religion to another frequently required baptism. And Judaism was no exception! Furthermore, Nicodemus knew who John the Baptist was and what he preached. So, why did Jesus not come right out and say “baptism”? Instead, he cryptically says other stuff and greatly confuses Nicodemus. Granted, Jesus said many cryptic things over the course of His ministry. However, trying to read “baptism” in this passage actually comes as a stretch. More so than many of Jesus’ other cryptic statements. I honestly fear that people want to read “baptism” in here to get Jesus to say it. And putting words into Jesus’ mouth is a dangerous game to play.

    Another thing here. The cross and the resurrection hadn’t happened yet. The Old Covenant still applied to Nicodemus at this point. Right? I bring this up because believers in Baptismal Regeneration say that the thief on the cross didn’t need baptism because he was still under the Old Covenant. So why would Jesus tell Nicodemus that he needed baptism and not the thief?

    Born of Water and Spirit

    The key phrase in this verse is “born of water and Spirit”. Understanding this phrase will clear up the whole of this passage. Two common interpretations exist surrounding this phrase. And doing my research, I found a great explanation of them both which I quote here along with a link to the original article.

    The first is that being “born of water” is being used by Jesus to refer to natural birth (with water referring to the amniotic fluid that surrounds the baby in the womb) and that being born of the “Spirit” indicates spiritual birth. While that is certainly a possible interpretation of the term “born of water” and would seem to fit the context of Nicodemus’ question about how a man could be born “when he is old,” it is not the best interpretation given the context of this passage. After all, Jesus was not talking about the difference between natural birth and spiritual birth. What He was doing was explaining to Nicodemus his need to be “born from above” or “born again.”

    The second common interpretation of this passage and the one that best fits the overall context, not only of this passage but of the Bible as a whole, is the one that sees the phrase “born of water and the Spirit” as both describing different aspects of the same spiritual birth, or of what it means to be “born again” or “born from above.” So, when Jesus told Nicodemus that he must “be born of water and the Spirit,” He was not referring to literal water (i.e. baptism or the amniotic fluid in the womb), but was referring to the need for spiritual cleansing or renewal. Throughout the Old Testament (Psalm 51:2,7; Ezekiel 36:25) and the New Testament (John 13:10; 15:3; 1 Corinthians 6:11; Hebrews 10:22), water is often used figuratively of spiritual cleansing or regeneration that is brought forth by the Holy Spirit, through the Word of God, at the moment of salvation (Ephesians 5:26; Titus 3:5)

    Does John 3:5 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation? (GotQuestions.org)

    The second interpretation here fits the overall context of John 3 as well as the overall context of the Bible. And, yes, I’m going to explain why with 4 solid reasons.

    First, Nicodemus found the literal interpretation incomprehensible. After all, it isn’t possible for a person to re-enter his mother’s womb to be literally born again. So, Jesus restates what He told Nicodemus, though He makes a distinction between flesh and Spirit this time (see verse 6).

    Second (going off of Jesus’ restatement), the Greek used here indicates that the phrases “born again”, “born from above”, and “born of water and Spirit” are three different ways of saying the same thing.

    Third, the grammar here strongly suggests that “born of water and Spirit” is a single action rather than two (born of water and born of Spirit) like some people think. Therefore, rather than two separate births (like Nicodemus thought) we have one. And that is the Spiritual birth necessary to see God and experience His kingdom. The necessity of this Spiritual birth is so strong, that Jesus said it three times in three different ways to get His point across.

    Fourth, water is frequently used symbolically throughout the Bible to refer to the cleansing power of Holy Spirit in our lives. Even the Old Testament makes reference to that cleansing power (see Isaiah 44:3 for one such example). Even more so throughout the New Testament – I like John 7:38-39 as an example.

    But I’m Jewish

    Another thing from this passage surrounds the actual phrase “born again”. I mentioned it in my last post as well, but it’s worth reiterating here. When Gentiles converted to Judaism, they were declared “born again”. So, the phrase didn’t originate with Jesus. Nicodemus heard of it and maybe even said it himself to a convert. This reveals that his confusion extended into this idea of “I’m already Jewish, I follow all the laws, I don’t need to be born again.” And that’s when he flipped to physical birth.

    Don’t You Understand?

    Last thing from John 3, I promise! Jesus rebukes Nicodemus for not understanding what He’s talking about (John 3:10). What did Jesus expect Nicodemus to know and understand? How about one of the key Scriptures that foretold of the New Covenant and Spiritual rebirth, Ezekiel 36:25-27.

    I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. (NIV)

    Nicodemus and the Pharisees studied the Scriptures and discussed them and even waited the Messiah. But they missed Him. That’s the rebuke of Jesus to Nicodemus here. Not that he didn’t understand the concept of water baptism. But that he missed that the promised spiritual cleansing had come. And without it, he would miss the kingdom of God as well.

    Romans 6:3-5

    Finally reached the last of the major verses that believers in Baptismal Regeneration use as evidence that the Bible teaches it.

    Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

    For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. (NIV)

    As with many of the others in this list, these verses appear to support Baptismal Regeneration – at least on the surface. But just like the others, appearances can be deceiving. And like the others, I intend to peel back the layers and lay bare the Truth of the simple gospel it contains.

    Baptized Into…

    There’s a phrase in here that causes some confusion. Baptized into. What does that mean here? Well, if you search the New Testament, you’ll find a few other places that phrase comes into play. And as I talked about in my commentary on Acts 2:38, how a word or phrase is translated in other places in the Bible can inform how it should be translated elsewhere. And since there’s only three, I put them up here in full. All from the NIV, by the way.

    They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 1 Corinthians 10:2

    For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. Galatians 3:27

    For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 1 Corinthians 12:13

    Disclaimer: 1 Corinthians 12:13 does not contain the phrase “baptized into” in the NIV. The NIV restructures it a little differently and uses the phrase “so as to form” in place of the word “into”. Which helps me explain the phrase “baptized into” a little easier, I think. The focus of all three of these verses is identification with the person or thing the people are being baptized into. Whether that’s “into Moses”, “into Christ”, or “into one body” (as 1 Corinthians 12:13 reads in other translations). In all of them, people identify themselves with a person, set of beliefs, or community by baptizing themselves into them. Which goes back to an earlier statement I made about many religions of that time period requiring baptism when converting.

    And given that in all other cases of the phrase “baptized into” interprets as identification, it makes sense to apply the same reasoning to Romans. And what do you get when you do that? You get us identifying with Jesus’ death. This sounds a lot like Paul’s statement in Galatians 2:20, “My old self has been crucified with Christ”. I don’t think anyone reading this (including believers in Baptismal Regeneration) would disagree with that we spiritually partake in Jesus’ death when we receive Him as Lord and Savior.

    The Context

    According to an article I read by George Ippolito, we need to be aware of three contexts when reading the Bible: 1) The immediate context; 2) The book context; and 3) The Biblical context. Applying this strategy to Romans 6:3-5, I find some interesting results that better inform my interpretation of these verses, results that do not include Baptismal Regeneration.

    1. The immediate context. In the immediate context, I see no reason to believe that these verses refer to water baptism. In fact, I see no mention of water at all! As I mentioned elsewhere, water baptism is but one type of baptism. And here the immediate context strongly suggests Spiritual Baptism is what’s taking place. (As an aside, Ippolito mentions a third type of baptism as being baptized into a suffering like Jesus.)
    2. The book context. Due to the length of the book of Romans, I limit it to chapters 3-5 since chapter 6 follows all that and Paul would have been writing stream of consciousness. And this entire section of Romans says a lot about salvation and justification by faith alone. This makes it rather illogical that Paul would abruptly throw in a couple of comments (not even the clearest) about needing baptism to be saved. Here’s a list of verses for you to read supporting justification by faith. Romans 3:21-22, 26, 28, 30; 4:3, 11, 13-14, 16, 20-25; and 5:1. And all that from the first 5 chapters of Romans! Paul argued heavily that in both the Old Testament and New Testament (now), God made us righteous through justification by faith.
    3. The broader Biblical context. I’m not going to spend much time here, but the Bible argues justification by faith alone all throughout. And I’ve spent two blogs now showing how the Bible doesn’t teach Baptismal Regeneration.

    Summary

    In summary about Romans, both the phrasing and the contexts support a teaching of Spiritual baptism and justification by faith alone. Reading Baptismal Regeneration into these verses is once again unwarranted.

    Wrapping Up

    Whew! Probably my longest blog to date, but I needed to go through all these verses in some detail. And believe it or not, so much more can be and has been said about these. I barely put a dent in it all. But as you can see, there is no reason to believe that any of these verses teach Baptismal Regeneration. It’s pretty plain to me that none of them do and I hope you see that as well. And without these verses to back them up, believers in Baptismal Regeneration don’t have a leg to stand on.

    Two blogs and a few thousand words later and I’m still not done with my arguments regarding Baptismal Regeneration! Seriously? Yep. I plan on releasing one more blog on this topic. It’ll be out on March 25th, on the 1st birthday of Tilling and Planting. That’s right, this blog turns 1 year on March 25th (😁). So please subscribe if you haven’t and please spread the word! I’m looking to expand my readership and exposure. I long for people to understand the truth and the hope that they already believe in. That they (you) may not fall into temptation, deception, despair, or anything else that the devil wants us to fall into, so we become ineffective for God. Currently, I operate by word of mouth. Nothing else. That might change in the future, but for now I rely entirely upon you. Thank you for reading and God bless you.

    Outro

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  • Baptismal Regeneration: An Overview

    Baptismal Regeneration: An Overview

    Intro

    I said in my last post that I would try and get these out in a shorter timeframe. But it didn’t happen with this second post in my baptism series. Turns out that there isn’t a whole lot of time left when moving into a new house and trying to unpack and organize everything. Who knew? Anyway, I’m continuing my series on baptism with talking about Baptismal Regeneration. I only briefly made mention of it in my last post and now I intend to go into more depth. As I said before, Baptismal Regeneration is the belief that one must be water baptized in order to be saved. In these next 2 or 3 posts, I aim to show you how the Bible does not teach that despite what some people believe.

    Culture

    When talking about baptism, one must take into account the culture of the day in which the early church existed. It’s important to note that Jesus did not come up with baptism. His cousin John certainly didn’t. In fact, the concept of baptism existed for centuries. The Jews dipped themselves under water 3 times before entering the temple. When Gentiles converted to Judaism, they performed that same rite and afterwards were declared “born again”. As a matter of fact, baptism often signified conversion from one religion to another. In some Greek cults, that baptism occurred in animal blood. Gross.

    All that to say, everyone knew and understood the concept of baptism. This makes it understandable why the early church emphasized it so heavily. After all, if you claim to believe, but refuse to perform a simple rite of passage to demonstrate that (not to mention a command of the one you follow), just how genuine is your faith?

    All-Sufficient?

    One major problem with Baptismal Regeneration is that it inherently denies the sufficiency of Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross. Yep, you heard me. Now, I don’t think anyone who believes this doctrine would actually make that claim. They’d deny it outright. However, let’s think about it logically. On the cross, Jesus said, “It is finished.” Furthermore, Paul states that salvation is by faith through grace and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9). If we are required to take a physical act in order to be saved (such as getting water baptized), then that makes salvation at least partly works-based. More on this later. This means that what Christ did on the cross was insufficient and we have to do something in order to finish it. And if Jesus made the claim that it was finished but was technically wrong…. That would make Jesus a liar. And that’s a HUGE problem.

    I referenced one of Paul’s statements in Ephesians earlier, but that one isn’t even the heavy hitter. Paul’s writings in Romans 4-5 explain in great detail how we are justified by faith and not by anything we can do.

    If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. Romans 4:2-5 (NIV)

    Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand….Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! Romans 5:1-2, 9 (NIV)

    I’m only giving you a sample of Paul’s argument. I encourage you to read the first 5 chapters of Romans and take note of how much Paul pushes faith and grace with no mention of baptism. Many people consider the book of Romans to be like another gospel. Truly it contains some of the best descriptors of the gospel and salvation – all without mention of the necessity of baptism. If baptism was truly necessary, wouldn’t Paul have mentioned it?

    Works-Based

    I want to expand upon the works-based nature of Baptismal Regeneration. Because many proponents claim that it’s not. I argue it is. Here’s why. Admittedly it doesn’t claim that you must continually work to be saved or remain saved. However, it says to receive God’s gift of salvation, we must do something to make our confession and repentance “stick”. That is the definition of works-based salvation.

    We tend to think of works-based as the life-long, works-only, hoping to get to Heaven someday. In that sense, proponents of Baptismal Regeneration aren’t advocating a works-based salvation. However, they advocate that your heart posture and faith before the Lord do nothing without baptism. So, proponents push for a works-based salvation without calling it that because it doesn’t match what we think of as works-based. But regardless of the number of works attached to salvation, it contradicts what the Bible says about faith.

    And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him. Hebrews 11:6 (NIV)

    The Bible names various things that pleases God. However, this is the only location that says how a person will never please God, no matter how many “good things” he does that to please Him. And that one way is: lack of faith. Nearly every time Jesus rebukes or chastises His disciples, it is due to a lack of faith, for example, the storm where Jesus was asleep on the boat. Jesus woke up, rebuked the storm, then asked the disciples where their faith was.

    A Gift

    To further emphasize the works-based nature of Baptismal Regeneration, take a look at these two passages from Romans.

    Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. Romans 4:4 (NIV)

    For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23 (NIV)

    In these passages, we see Paul calling salvation a gift of God. And he also states that one does not work for a gift – else it becomes an obligation. And the Bible refers to salvation as a gift repeatedly, I just referenced one such instance here. I mean, how can we do something to receive a gift besides accept it with an outstretched hand and gratitude in our hearts? It’s like me giving my brother-in-law a Christmas gift and then telling him, “Do ten push-ups if you want this gift.” If I did that, it’s no longer a free gift.

    Faith In….

    Do you see why I claim Baptismal Regeneration is works-based and denies the sufficiency of Christ’s sacrifice? Preaching this doctrine runs the risk of people placing their faith in the act of baptism rather than faith in Jesus. And that’s dangerous. That leads to people having a false belief in their own salvation. Not good.

    To further illustrate this, I know someone who got re-baptized because the first time they were was not for the “purpose of salvation”. Therefore, they had to get baptized again – for the purpose of salvation – in order to be saved. This person had faith in Jesus for many years. Yet, came to believe that wasn’t enough and needed baptism to make their salvation genuine. That worries me. Not for that person’s salvation – I believe in the security of their salvation. But for anyone who grows up hearing about it. Because of the risk I mentioned earlier about people having a false belief in their salvation.

    Paul’s Bold Statements

    In the last section I mentioned that Paul left out discussions of baptism in his writings in Romans. I take it one step further here and wish to point out this incredibly bold statement he makes in 1 Corithians.

    I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. 1 Corinthians 1:14-17 (NIV)

    I especially want to highlight verse 17, “For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel”. Here, Paul makes a clear separation between baptism and the gospel. After all, Paul says later in this book that it is the gospel that saves you (1 Corinthians 15:1-2). If baptism is indeed necessary for salvation, then why would Paul not be called to baptize? It makes no sense.

    I wish to further illustrate this using the deductive reasoning formula: if A=B and B=C, then A=C. Only let’s make G the gospel, B baptism, and S salvation. So then, if G = S (1 Corinthians 15:1-2) and B = S (Baptismal Regeneration), then G = B (baptism is a necessary part of the gospel), right? Yet by excluding baptism from his definitions of the gospel, Paul says that G ≠ B (baptism isn’t necessary). And if that’s the case, then either G = S is wrong, or B = S is wrong. And Paul explicitly says that G = S (1 Corinthians 15:1-2, Romans 1:16). Therefore, B = S must be wrong. It’s impossible to have a case in which both G = S and B = S are true and still have G ≠ B. In summation, G = S and G ≠ B, therefore B ≠ S.

    Wrapping Up

    I’m hoping you’re starting to see that salvation is by faith alone in Jesus’ sacrifice alone. I only give general, Biblical arguments here regarding baptism, salvation, and Baptismal Regeneration. In my next post, I am going to address the major Scripture passages that believers in this doctrine cite as proof of Baptismal Regeneration. Watch for it to come out and don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss it!

    Outro

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